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Project managing your life – with Bina Champaneria

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Learn how to expertly manage your personal projects with top insights from our webinar — read now for a life more organised and productive!
Project managing your life – with Bina Champaneria

Join Bina Champaneria’s webinar and discover how project management techniques can help you effectively organise your personal projects and to-do lists. In addition, gain valuable insights into the benefits of project management, such as improved productivity and accomplishment.

This webinar is ideal for those seeking to enhance their personal productivity. Bina Champaneria, a specialist in personal projects and to-do list organisation, will share practical tips and strategies to help you achieve your goals efficiently.

Take advantage of the opportunity to learn from a seasoned professional and enhance your productivity.


Watch the video, download the presentation or audio, or read the full transcript of the webinar below. Start improving your skills today.

About Bina Champaneria

With a diverse range of skills and knowledge gained from extensive experience across multiple industries, Bina Champaneria is a highly accomplished professional. She has worked as a Senior Lecturer, delivering courses in project management, Business Strategy, People Management, and Entrepreneurship while supervising student projects, honing her teaching style.

Bina’s expertise in project management has allowed her to oversee the implementation of systems, train operators, and manage various projects related to program development and program accreditation. She even spearheaded a four-year EU-funded initiative that involved a team of seven international organisations researching marine protected areas.

Bina is an Associate Trainer for PRINCE2, AgilePM, and PRINCE2 Agile. She recognises the value of incorporating project management practices into everyday life and uses her wealth of experience and knowledge to help individuals improve their project management skills. With her impressive track record, Bina is an invaluable resource for those seeking to enhance their project management capabilities.

Agile project management courses

Enrolling in an agile project management course can be highly advantageous if you want to advance your project management career. With the skills, knowledge, and experience gained from such a course, individuals can excel in various roles and industries within an agile context. Furthermore, as project management remains a high-demand field, many organisations seek professionals to lead their projects. Obtaining agile project management certification can thus increase your career prospects, especially given the widespread use of agile in projects today.

agileKRC offers a range of agile project management training suited for people with varying experience levels. In addition, agileKRC provides bespoke agile project management training, consultancy, and coaching services to help embed agile ways of working into daily practices. With agileKRC’s comprehensive offerings, you can advance your project management career and succeed in the rapidly evolving landscape of project management.

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Here’s the full transcript of the video.

00:00:00 Sevcan Yasa: I think we should start now. So just to give everyone a brief introduction, I’m Sevcan and I’m the marketing executive for Knowledge Train. Knowledge Train and agileKRC are in partnership we have Bina with us today. So, thank you so much for joining Bina. Just before I head over to Bina, right at the end we will have a Q&A session. So, if you do have any questions, please jot them down in the chat section or if you have any suggestions or comments, you can always jot them down and you will go over them right at the end. Bina over to you.

00:00:38 Bina Champaneria: Great. Thank you. Yeah, just unmuted myself. Thank you very much everybody for joining me today for this webinar. I really appreciate you being here. I mean, you could have been outside in the sunshine having a nice walk but I’m so glad that you decided to join, and I really appreciate it. So, thank you very much. Now my webinar is titled Project Manage Your life, and that might seem like a strange title, and you might be asking yourself why do we need to project manage our life, you know. What are we doing in our in our life that’s a project and the kind of question I’m thinking of asking is that, you know, are you having sleepless nights over something you need to get done?

00:01:21 Bina Champaneria: Are you stressing over a personal project, something that you need to get done?

00:01:25 Bina Champaneria: And have you got something like a To Do List that’s always growing, so for me I think these are general things that we all need to manage in everyday life, and I certainly have can say yes to a lot of these questions.

00:01:38 Bina Champaneria: So, what I’m going to show you is how I manage these things in daily life using things from project management.

00:01:46 Bina Champaneria: So, project management is the area that I delivered training in, I managed in. So, I thought why not use what I know about project management in things related to daily life. So, I’m actually going to share two stories with you and show you how I managed these kinds of things.

00:02:05 Bina Champaneria: And give you an introduction to what we’re going to cover.

00:02:10 Bina Champaneria: Over this session is I’m going to give you a brief introduction about myself and then we’ll talk about what is a project just very generally and what kind of projects you might have. And then the two stories I’m going to give. So, story number one is about a project and then I’ll finish off by giving a summary of what I used to manage that, from what I know about project management practises.

00:02:36 Bina Champaneria: During that story, there’s going to be some poll questions for you to answer and then I’ll move on to story number two, which is about the To Do List. And again, I’ll explain how I manage that and give you a summary that I use from the project management practises and then finishing off, I’ll give you what I think is my key takeaway from this session. And then there’ll be a Q&A session, so please write your questions comments in the chat and we’ll take your questions at the end of the session.

00:03:08 Bina Champaneria: It’s great to see so many people here and some people that I know, some people that I’ve trained before, some people that I don’t know. So, thank you very much for joining me and I’m hoping that you’ll learn something from here that’s going to be of practical use to you as it was for me.

00:03:26 Bina Champaneria: So, I’ll start with an introduction of myself. What’s my background? What’s my journey been? And there’s a lot of information on here.

00:03:35 Bina Champaneria: Now long time ago I actually studied fashion, so in the top left-hand corner you see some diagrams that I did off long long time ago, probably in the 80s when I was studying fashion. So, I worked in the fashion industry for about 7 years that was really helpful because I learned a lot about design specifications, manufacturing, quality control, something called iterative development, which some of you may have heard of.

00:04:01 Bina Champaneria: That’s basically where say I would design a blouse for a customer, get it made, show it to the customer, it could be Tesco’s or some other kind of retail organisation they’d look at it and they’ll come back with feedback, and they might say change the colour, change the sleeves or whatever.

00:04:18 Bina Champaneria: So, I’d make those changes go back until it’s approved, so that’s one way of manufacturing, but also a lot of customer collaboration. So, I spent about seven years working for different manufacturers with swimwear, lingerie, leisure, etc.

00:04:34 Bina Champaneria: The two companies you see below, AMF and LECTRA, one’s American one’s French. They were manufacturers of computer aided design and manufacture systems, so I ended up working for those companies because they made systems for the apparel industry. For anybody who was cutting something out of fabric.

00:04:53 Bina Champaneria: So, I ended up delivering training courses, doing a lot of user testing and a lot of international travel training operators of the systems.

00:05:02 Bina Champaneria: So gradually I moved on to the IT side of things and also worked for a company called Torexretail who supplied electronic point of sale systems.

00:05:14 Bina Champaneria: So, I was a project manager helping to install systems at client sites.

00:05:20 Bina Champaneria: In the middle, at the bottom you see a company called mace, which you may or may not know is a construction company, so I set up a project to support office for about 10 project managers and we were based at the customer site.

00:05:35 Bina Champaneria: So that was a good insight into what project managers need, how to support them, what kind of information needed to pass to and from the customer, for instance.

00:05:47 Bina Champaneria: Now in the middle is a logo. This is Breda University and probably a lot of you have never heard of Breda University wondering where is that? I’ve never heard of it. It’s actually in the Netherlands and that’s where I live for 11 years working for this university. It was an International University, and I joined the university to primarily to set up courses in project management for 2 different programmes. So, I developed courses, delivered courses in project management as well as the other subjects.

00:06:19 Bina Champaneria: Whilst at the university I also managed several of their projects like new programme development, accreditation etcetera, and that was really helpful because I could see and apply the, you know what was needed in terms of project management for the university per project.

00:06:37 Bina Champaneria: Also at the university, I managed to bring in a project called Green Bubbles, which sounds like a strange name, but it’s actually, I brought it in via a friend who was a Marine Biologist, and the project was an EU funded project.

00:06:52 Bina Champaneria: Run by a consortium of nine different organisations from different countries and we were involved as a university in that project. It was all about marine protected areas, specifically one of the case study locations was in Italy.

00:07:09 Bina Champaneria: So, I was lucky enough to lead a team of 10 of my colleagues on this project. We went to Italy several times, which was really good fun. Very, very helpful. And we looked at things like marketing, marketing and business models of organisations as well as developing a virtual reality underwater experience that was a really good project to learn about dealing with international partners if you like.

00:07:36 Bina Champaneria: Now, three years ago, I moved back to the UK.

00:07:40 Bina Champaneria: And on my return, I did work on a project for the University of Bradford, a project about team-based learning and I also worked for the University of Leeds in partnership with The Alan Turing Institute, on a project about data analysis taking data from various big clients like Network Rail, Asda and so on, and coming up with some kind of analysis of that data.

00:08:09 Bina Champaneria: What I’m doing now though is delivering courses in Agile project management, PRINCE2 and PRINCE2 Agile so as you can see at the top there, I’m accredited trainer for those 3 specific project management approaches and I also have some other certifications, but that’s what my focus is now is delivering training for various organisations, including Knowledge Train.

00:08:32 Bina Champaneria: That’s, that’s enough about me. Sounds like I’ve done a lot. I have for a long period of time. I’m not gonna tell you how long because you probably think. Well, you must be really old. Well, I guess I must be really old anyway, let’s move on. That’s my introduction.

00:08:51 Bina Champaneria: Now my two stories are story 1 – how I planned my Big Move project.

00:08:58 Bina Champaneria: And story 2 – how I took control of my ever-growing To Do List. So maybe you can relate to these stories. Maybe you’ve been in similar situations.

00:09:15 Bina Champaneria: Just waiting for the slide to move on one second, there we go.

00:09:20 Bina Champaneria: So, the reason why I call it project manage your life is because we all face challenges in life when we need to get things done, things like organising a wedding, finding a job, having a new kitchen fitted, new bathroom, moving home, et cetera. We all want to get things done in life and you could class these as personal projects.

00:09:39 Bina Champaneria: So, what I want to show you is how you can use good practises from project management to help you with your own personal projects and that’s what my stories are going to show you.

00:09:51 Bina Champaneria: But I think what we should do is, first of all, establish – What is a project?

00:09:59 Bina Champaneria: Just waiting for the slide. There we go. So, a project is something where you have an idea. So, we see a light bulb there in the in the left-hand corner and you have an idea that you want something you want to get something done and before you get that done, you’ve got questions like why do I want this? What do I want? When do I want it all? The kind of questions that we need to ask ourselves before we spend our own money to do something and on the right-hand side possibly some typical kind of personal projects like organising a party, writing a book or an article, moving home, getting married, organising a wedding, having new kitchen fitted or even going on a journey.

00:10:45 Bina Champaneria: So maybe some of you can relate to those and think yes, I’m going to be doing that or I’m in the middle of doing that, that’s a kind of a project. So, you’re managing this journey from your idea to get what you want.

00:11:00 Bina Champaneria: Now that journey on the diagram looks like a very straight line, very straight line. You’re going from A to B but of course, we know in reality it takes twists and turns and a lot of things that you have to think about or you that things happen that you didn’t expect. You have to make changes. But ultimately you’re going on this journey and during that journey, you’re managing your tasks. You know what has to be done, the time it has to be done, the costs, what the quality is, what materials do you need, what resources you need, et cetera. Who do you have to communicate with? And so on. So, we managed this journey the same as on a project in your organisation, if you’re running projects in your own personal life, you’re still going on this journey to manage your project.

00:11:48 Bina Champaneria: So, I have a question coming up, which is a poll question, so Sevcan is going to set up the poll and the question is Question 1. Have you moved house recently? Say probably in the last year or so. Question 2. Have you moved house and country recently? Excuse me and Question 3. What was it be like to manage if you did this by yourself, Was it easy? OK? Hard? or Very hard? Maybe you moved house many years ago. You can relate to that.

00:12:22 Bina Champaneria: Thank you.

00:12:29 Bina Champaneria: OK, I can see some scores coming up on the poll.

00:12:35 Bina Champaneria: Interesting to see.

00:12:40 Bina Champaneria: Right.

00:12:44 Bina Champaneria: Let’s give it a few more moments for people to finish the poll.

00:12:47 Bina Champaneria: So, what we have, have you moved house recently? About 19 people said they have, 21 said not recently. So maybe they moved in the past for instance, have you moved house and country recently? So about 9 people have. So that’s interesting actually moving house and country.

00:13:08 Bina Champaneria: Whereas 30% have said they haven’t moved country, but maybe they moved house and then interesting to see what it was like to manage 2 people said it was easy, 19 people said OK.

00:13:23 Bina Champaneria: Hard about 5 people and 4 said it was Very hard. So, you’ve all had different experiences about moving. That’s really good to get that kind of feedback.

00:13:33 Bina Champaneria: OK. Thank you very much. Sevcan for running that poll, we can end that poll and I’ll go back to the slides. Yeah. So, thank you for your feedback on that. Let’s look at this a bit further.

00:13:50 Bina Champaneria: Now you may know this already, but according to Google these are the most stressful life events that people may experience.

00:13:57 Bina Champaneria: So, I did a quick search, and it came up with things like death of a loved one, divorce, moving, major illness or injury, job loss, and maybe you can think of some more to that. But these are clusters stressful events that we may experience in life, maybe, maybe more than one, maybe more than one at a time also.

00:14:18 Bina Champaneria: So going to my experience now and my story.

00:14:25 Bina Champaneria: I actually experienced three of these at the same time, so for me it was a death of a loved one, my mum passed away in February 2020. I moved house and country in March 2020, so three years ago, if you like and then leaving a job, friends and the place I called home for the last 11 years.

00:14:45 Bina Champaneria: Now, I didn’t lose the job. I left the job. I decided to move back to the UK, but there was obviously some sadness because I was leaving a place, I’d known friends had known for a long time. So, all that was going on plus, the emergence of the pandemic. So just to add things to it, make things more difficult. We had the emergence of the pandemic at the same time.

00:15:10 Bina Champaneria: And my move was effectively this. I’ll just wait for the slide to change. Yeah. So, we see a little map there. And we see there’s a map in the Netherlands there Breda the city I used to live in, and so my move involved going from Breda to Rotterdam, getting the ferry. Sailing across the North Sea to Hull and then driving to Bradford.

00:15:36 Bina Champaneria: But it wasn’t just a case of me moving. It was everything I owned all my worldly possessions had to be moved. You know, lock, stock and barrel. I had to move everything. So, it wasn’t just about me getting on a ferry and doing the move. I had to move all my furniture and everything, so I felt totally overwhelmed and very stressed and I knew I only had one shot at this I couldn’t go back and say, OK, I’ll go back and finish that off later. You know, it was a one shot. I had to have. I had to get everything finished on time, and of course, because I lived on my own and moved on my own, I basically had to do this all on my own. So that was a major challenge. A major project you can call it.

00:16:19 Bina Champaneria: So, I started asking a lot of questions. Where do I start? You know, how do I manage this? Can I actually do this?

00:16:27 Bina Champaneria: What do I actually have to do? What’s the scope of my project? To me, this was a huge personal project that I had to manage on my own, very challenging and you know what if things didn’t go right, what if I missed something that was important, how would that affect me? So, a lot and lots of questions. And you can imagine a lot of sleepless nights.

00:16:55 Bina Champaneria: I had to find answers to my questions, and I needed to think of a way of managing my Big Move project and it was all in my head, all these things I had to do, so I thought I needed to visualise what I was faced with. I need to see what I was faced with. It was no good being going round and round in my head. I needed to see what I needed to do.

00:17:17 Bina Champaneria: So, I decided to use the product-based planning technique from PRINCE2.

00:17:22 Bina Champaneria: So, some of you that may have done PRINCE2. You might be familiar with that if you’re not, not to worry I’m going to show you what it’s like. So, I use this approach to help me now, very briefly, what is product-based planning about?

00:17:40 Bina Champaneria: It involves the following, so there’s various steps, but the first one is describing your products. So, I would need to describe what’s my aim. You know what’s the Big Move all about? What’s involved? What do I expect from it and so on. So, I know what my end goal is.

00:17:58 Bina Champaneria: Then I would create what we’ll call a breakdown structure, which I’ll show you an example of to be able to visualise the scope.

00:18:06 Bina Champaneria: Scope, is you know, what’s involved in this project. So again, it was going back to getting it out of my head and making it visual so I could see what I was faced with.

00:18:16 Bina Champaneria: Then, following on from that I could create another kind of diagram to show me what do I do first, what do I do next? What’s the order that these things need to happen?

00:18:26 Bina Champaneria: So, there’s a lot of visualisation involved in this technique, and that’s why I decided to use it, because I think visualising things really helps me.

00:18:37 Bina Champaneria: In fact, you’re going to see a photo of my original breakdown structure, so this is what I created on a corkboard with sticky notes. Not very neat handwriting, but not to worry, but this is what I use to help me manage my project. I don’t have this anymore because obviously the project finished and I needed to get rid of all those things, but that was I made my challenge visual and that’s the main message I want to put here just now.

00:19:04 Bina Champaneria: So, I’m going to actually show you how I created that.

00:19:13 Bina Champaneria: So, if I look at it in a digital form, I started to create something called a breakdown structure.

00:19:20 Bina Champaneria: At the very top is my ultimate goal, which was the Big Move and then underneath is a scope. Is what had to be done for this project. So, for example, in the top left-hand corner you’ve got an import car because that was something I wanted to do. I wanted to bring my Dutch car to the UK, so import car was part of the scope of the project. I’d arranged my travel I’d to organise all my stuff. I had to do all my packing. Even finish off some Dutch administration tasks and so on. Of course, cleaning my apartment and miscellaneous so that top line helped me understand the areas that I needed to work on for my project.

00:20:03 Bina Champaneria: So that gave me a good kind of foundation to work on. Then I started looking at each area of scope and thought. OK, what is it that I actually have to get done to do for this?

00:20:15 Bina Champaneria: So, for example, to import my car to get ready, get it ready to be used in the UK, like get UK number plates organised, get the headlight modification organised and so on. A lot of paperwork. So that was related to importing the car.

00:20:32 Bina Champaneria: And then I looked at all the other areas of scope like storage removals and so on and started to add other tasks, other things I need to get done actually for that. So, I’ve got storage in the UK removals company and so on.

00:20:51 Bina Champaneria: By the way I’ve actually written things like travel booked, storage space booked. It’s like what do you get when you’ve done this?

00:20:59 Bina Champaneria: It’s not. I need to book storage, but storage space needs to get booked, so that’s the accomplishment of the task. What should I get when it’s done? So that’s why I wrote it down like that.

00:21:11 Bina Champaneria: Again, this helped me to see what was involved in each area of the scope, so I added some more items.

00:21:20 Bina Champaneria: As you see there OK looks a bit busy now, and this is actually simplified compared to the one that I had you know, for real, but it helped me see what I was faced with. And again, it was getting it out of my head. Making it visual and giving me a lot of clarity.

00:21:37 Bina Champaneria: And I could see that there was, for instance with the Dutch admin. There were lot, lot more things involved, for instance, important things I need to get done.

00:21:47 Bina Champaneria: I also had a column for miscellaneous so things that didn’t belong anywhere else, but it was handy to have that. And that included things like apartment keys handed over. That was one of the last things I had to do before I actually moved.

00:22:01 Bina Champaneria: So that gave me a really good starting point. So, this is a great product breakdown structure. And what I also did from this was add what we call key milestones.

00:22:13 Bina Champaneria: So, we can see some items with the red stars on these are things I thought I must get these done by a particular time.

00:22:23 Bina Champaneria: Because if I don’t, my project’s going to be late. You know, it could have a knock-on effect for everything else, so I would be managing things and thinking, OK, that must removals company must be booked by this particular date. My travel must be booked by this particular date, so these are sort of milestones and that also helped me focus on time scales on what was important to complete.

00:22:47 Bina Champaneria: So just to recap, this is a product breakdown structure to help me plan for my project.

00:22:57 Bina Champaneria: Another way you could do this, and in the PRINCE2 manual there’s an example of something called a mind map.

00:23:04 Bina Champaneria: So, I could have created a mind map for instance. You know if those of you that like doing mind maps, then you could still use that. Again, it’s making something visual, and they’re in the middle. I’ve got my big move and then to the sides. I’ve got the various areas of scope and then all the different products, so that’s another way of visualising what was involved in my project.

00:23:28 Bina Champaneria: Another alternative that’s also mentioned in the PRINCE2 manual is that you could do a list like this for instance, so I’m still separating the areas of scope and then I’ve got the different things that need to be done. So, if I just recap, so we’ve got the list, we’ve got the mind map, and we’ve got the product breakdown structure.

00:23:55 Bina Champaneria: Yeah. So, I’m going to ask you a question. Another poll question coming up. Which do you prefer out of the three that you’ve seen which do you prefer? Whoops. Sorry. I’ve gone a bit too fast. Let’s go back a bit. There should be.

00:24:09 Bina Champaneria: Yeah. Which did you prefer the breakdown structure, the mind map, or the list? So that’s our next poll question. Thank you.

00:24:32 Bina Champaneria: All right. That’s good to see. Breakdown structure wins everybody with about 24 people going for the breakdown structure. Mind map 6 people, List 9 people, so at the end of the day you choose whatever suits you, what you feel comfortable with. The main thing is that you’re seeing the information and use whatever feels good to you. Yeah, good for you. What works for you, yep. Thank you very much for that poll question, Sevcan I’ll go back to the slides now.

00:25:08 Bina Champaneria: OK.

00:25:13 Bina Champaneria: So, to summarise why I use the breakdown structure from what it helped me, you can see a lot of information on there, but I think the key message I’d like to give here is that it gave me confidence.

00:25:24 Bina Champaneria: And that was really important because to manage this huge task on my own, I needed to get it done and by organising my work, by creating a breakdown structure and knowing what I had to get done and the order things were going to be done in did give me confidence that I felt I could do this and then to be honest, I don’t know what I would have done if I hadn’t done a breakdown structure it would have been really, really difficult to manage considering the amount of scope I had for the project and everything else that was going on in life at the time. So, I really found that useful. It gave me confidence, which was important to me.

00:26:00 Bina Champaneria: Taking that further then, you think, well, what do you do next? You’ve got a breakdown structure tells you everything that has to be done. What’s next?

00:26:11 Bina Champaneria: Well then, I needed to think about, well, what do I do first?

00:26:13 Bina Champaneria: What do I do next? What do I need to do first before something else can be done? Is there a connection? Is there dependency between them? So again, I wanted to visualise this, the order, the sequence things have to be done in.

00:26:29 Bina Champaneria: So, I took my post-it notes from my corkboard and then I started laying them down into what I thought would need to be done 1st and next.

00:26:40 Bina Champaneria: So, we’ve got there, for example, in the left-hand corner, we’ve got removal companies researched that leads to removal courts assessed, and that leads to removal companies booked so I could quite clearly see the order these things had to be done in and that would be a milestone that I would reach at the end of that.

00:26:59 Bina Champaneria: Then I started adding other items to this flow diagram. Now it’s going to start getting look a bit busy and we can see arrows and connections going all over the place, but ultimately everything is leading to the big move at the bottom of the screen. That’s my aim. So, everything I was doing had to flow into the big move. So, if I add some more items now you can see it’s gonna look busier. Yeah.

00:27:29 Bina Champaneria: So, for example, at the top I’ve got all these items that need to be sorted from my kitchen, my lounge, utility room, bedrooms and so on. So, this could be done independently of the removals company. So not everything was connected and had different style points.

00:27:49 Bina Champaneria: But of course, things like getting the boxes I had to get the boxes first before I could pack and before I could pack, I needed to decide what was going into storage and what was going into the house. So that’s why you see a lot of arrows there. All of the dependencies between them, so I’ll just add the rest of the items, I’m sorry, looks a busy diagram, but that’s what, sorry, that’s what it looked like actually, but it helped me to see the different start points, the dependencies and what was the order I had to get things done in.

00:28:23 Bina Champaneria: And in the bottom right-hand corner you see apartment keys handed over. So that was like the last thing I had to do before I left the Netherlands. You know, I sold my apartment. I cleaned it. I had to give the keys to the estate agents before I could actually physically move. Otherwise, you know, if I left the Netherlands with the keys; I don’t think the new owner would be very happy. So that was like a major milestone. Once I’d handed the keys over, I knew that I’d moved everything out of the apartment.

00:28:53 Bina Champaneria: So that’s what we call a flow diagram and maybe if done something similar, but it helps you to look at the order that things have to be done in and the dependencies.

00:29:03 Bina Champaneria: So, to make that work for me, then what I did was create a very simple kind of timeline. So, in PRINCE2, it says you create a schedule. So, this is a very simplified view of the schedule.

00:29:16 Bina Champaneria: And what you can see are all the milestones and then I attached dates to them. So, I knew that for example the storage items had to be packed to house items need to be packed by a certain date. So that gave me a good kind of guideline as to what to finish by what date. So, this is a simplified kind of view of the timeline. But it’s still part of the PRINCE2 planning technique.

00:29:43 Bina Champaneria: So that’s all to do with what did I have to do? When was it going to happen? What’s the order? And so on. Now something else that I mentioned was writing a product description. So, in PRINCE2 they suggest writing product description for your goal, ultimate goal. And then write product descriptions for everything else. So, for example, I needed storage space, so ideally, I should have written something like this. I didn’t. I’ll explain why I didn’t and what happened because I didn’t, but if I wanted to be very clear about the storage space that I needed and for it to be absolutely right.

00:30:22 Bina Champaneria: And then I would say look, I need storage space, why do I need it? Because not everything’s going to go in the house. Somethings are going to go into storage, composition what should be in that store room. So obvious things like there should be a lock on the door store room number and so on.

00:30:39 Bina Champaneria: But what’s really important is a quality criteria, and this is where I missed out, actually, because it was very difficult to identify. But what I should have done was said I needed a room that’s X metres by X metres and so on. The size of it and things like, yes, it has a lockable door and everything, but it was hard for me at the time to actually think how big should the storage space be. Because unless I put everything that was going to go into storage in one corner of the room and measured it, I wouldn’t know.

00:31:10 Bina Champaneria: So, I had conversations with the store room manager to kind of explain what I needed, and he interpreted that maybe there was miscommunication, but actually the storage space was far too small, and I’ll talk more about that in a moment, but this is something from PRINCE2, which suggests. Be clear on what you want, because if you do, there’s a better chance of actually getting it.

00:31:35 Bina Champaneria: So that’s a simple example of a product breakdown structure. No, it isn’t product description sorry. I got product breakdown structures on my brain.

00:31:44 Bina Champaneria: OK, so you might be wondering, well, how did it all go Bina, how was your big move?

00:31:50 Bina Champaneria: Well, let’s talk about the storage space first in the bottom left-hand corner, and it was a bit like that. The store room was so jam packed when I got there. The removal guys got there before I did they. They arrived in the UK before me. They offloaded the van and they basically rammed everything they thought should go into the store room like that.

00:32:12 Bina Champaneria: So, I opened the door, you know, almost everything fell out. I couldn’t even go into the store room. So that was not really to my satisfaction. But I should have been a bit clearer. So, in the end I had to pay for our much larger storage space and get everything moved and also the removal men didn’t really look at the labels. You know what should have been in the storeroom ended up in the house in some cases, and vice versa.

00:32:38 Bina Champaneria: So, there was a lot of rejigging of where things should be so the storage space was not a very good experience, unfortunately, but I’ve learned a big lesson from that.

00:32:48 Bina Champaneria: The picture in the middle, you might think, why have I got a picture of a Yucca tree.

00:32:52 Bina Champaneria: Well, my Yucca tree is now about 7 foot tall it’s certainly taller than me, and that move from the Netherlands to the UK in the removal van probably bent over a little bit, but it survived and actually since moving to the UK, it’s now in its third resting place and I think it will stay there, so that has survived thankfully.

00:33:13 Bina Champaneria: At the bottom right-hand corner is my imported car well I love that car. I don’t have it anymore. Unfortunately, I sold it because I realised it was far too impractical to drive a car with the steering wheel on the wrong side of the road, sort of the car, especially when you come to roundabouts or car parks and so on. You know, you go to a car park, you can’t get the ticket out cause you got to run around the other side, get the ticket and so on so for practical purposes it was impractical actually. So, I did sell it, having done everything to import it, I kept it for a while and then sold it. Bear with me one second.

00:33:56 Bina Champaneria: And the last picture at the top was from a view from my ferry window when I was leaving the Netherlands.

00:34:03 Bina Champaneria: Now there’s a huge sigh of relief that I was actually leaving. Everything was done, the keys were handed over, the apartment was left empty. The removal men had gone. So, there was a huge relief that everything was done on time.

00:34:16 Bina Champaneria: But there was a lot of sadness as well, you know, leaving a place that was my home, my friends and everything I knew into the unknown, if you like well, back to the UK, so that that little strip of land that you see was a last bit of the Netherlands that I saw as I sailed off into the sunset.

00:34:33 Bina Champaneria: So that was kind of a summary of how my big move went. I’m going to give you a summary of PRINCE2 not too much theory, but just a very, very brief kind of information about it. So PRINCE2 stands for PRojects IN Controlled Environments. It’s one of the certifications that I teach, it’s been around for a long time. It started off in 1975 and now we have a revised version of the manual in 2017. Of course, it’s still going it’s 2023. The PRINCE2 is still here to stay. It consists of, as you see on the left-hand side processes, themes and principles and the environment itself, and the key to using PRINCE2 is about tailoring it to suit your project.

00:35:21 Bina Champaneria: It can be used for any kind of project size, type or environment.

00:35:29 Bina Champaneria: It’s well recognised in many different countries and the manual is available in 18 languages and I actually did my original, did my PRINCE2 way back in 2002 after which I taught PRINCE2 for quite a few years, so it’s still going strong, and I wanted to pick out something that I really like from PRINCE2 to show you.

00:35:53 Bina Champaneria: OK, so I’m just wondering if there are any questions related to this story. I’ll just have a quick look in the chat and see before I move on to the next story. Let’s have a look.

00:36:10 Bina Champaneria: Sometimes I prefer breakdown structure. Depends. Yeah, Mariana, you’ve obviously used the breakdown structure, so sometimes you prefer that depends on what you’re doing.

00:36:21 Bina Champaneria: Can you recommend any software which makes dependency diagrams quickly and easily? I don’t know if you’ve used MIRO, but I really like MIRO I don’t know if anybody has used that, that’s something certainly worth playing around with it and you can get a free version of it and you can do breakdown structures, you can connect items, you can draw arrows. So that might be something worth looking at.

00:36:43 Bina Champaneria: Sarah, you moved from the Netherlands to London. Colour coded boxes. Storage house. Yeah, that’s a good idea. Actually, I had just had white labels and I should have colour coded them so that really helps. So, it’s good that you’ve experienced something similar. OK, thank you. If there any other questions you know we can have a look at those later.

00:37:03 Bina Champaneria: So that’s the end of story 1 so, I’m hoping that you’ve learned something that you think, oh, I might try that for my own personal project.

00:37:12 Bina Champaneria: Story 2 then is slightly different, and this is about, can I get to my story 2.

00:37:24 Bina Champaneria: Sorry, just trying to advance the slide one second.

00:37:33 Bina Champaneria: It’s about never going to a To Do List, and I’m assuming that you all have a To Do List that seems to be shrinking, growing, shrinking, growing, always there on your mind, it is on mine anyway, but it’s an ever present To Do List and I’m thinking about it in the daytime in the night time and so many things on there.

00:37:54 Bina Champaneria: So sometimes maybe you can expect you can relate to this. I’d wake up in the night thinking about my To Do List. Waking up in the morning thinking about it, my mind is overactive. I start thinking about it, and then I even start working on it in my mind, you know, I start thinking about something and trying to work on it, trying to plan it at any time of day. So that was the message I’m saying is you’re working on this anytime.

00:38:21 Bina Champaneria: Which is not what you want, because it’s almost like you’re being controlled by your To Do List.

00:38:27 Bina Champaneria: So, one night I think it was around New Year’s Eve. It was kind of a New Year’s resolution. I said stop Bina you can’t keep doing this daytimes were working night time is for sleeping. Sounds simple, but if you require some discipline and I’ll show you how I managed this. So, I felt I needed to take control of my To Do List instead of it controlling me, I needed to do something about it and I needed to ask some questions.

00:38:53 Bina Champaneria: So, these are the questions I asked myself. First of all, what exactly was on my To Do List? What are all these items that I’ve listed that need to get done?

00:39:04 Bina Champaneria: Was each item important question 2. Was it urgent? Was it important? Did it matter if I didn’t get it done.

00:39:12 Bina Champaneria: Question 3 OK if I decided to do something, how long will it take to complete? And then question 4 when will I actually do this? When will I work on this item on my TDL?

00:39:26 Bina Champaneria: So, I kind of explored my TDL in a little bit more detail and asked some questions. So, for the first question.

00:39:37 Bina Champaneria: What was actually on my TDL? I looked to another project management method that I am aware of that I teach and have practised, which is DSDM AgilePM. OK, so agile is a different way of working and from that there’s something there’s a practise called user stories where you’re describing a requirement and the way they’re written is you write as a user. What do I need and why?So, when I looked at my items on my To Do List, I tried to explain them in this sense. So, here’s an example of a user story what relating to me.

00:40:19 Bina Champaneria: So, I’ve got them as a trainer. What do I need? I need to know if a course is confirmed. Why? So that I can arrange my travel to the training location. So that gave me a lot more clarity about what it was that I needed to get done and why.

00:40:37 Bina Champaneria: And then acceptance criteria is really, you know, what would make it good? What would be the quality of it, quality criteria. So, what do I need? I actually need proof of course confirmation.

00:40:48 Bina Champaneria: And also, can I get the confirmation within two weeks of the course start date so that gave me a lot more clarity on what I had to get done.

00:40:56 Bina Champaneria: Why and what was important about it? So that’s the concept of user stories to help me understand what was on my To Do List.

00:41:08 Bina Champaneria: And then with all these user stories, I thought I’m going to organise these and maybe this looks familiar to you. It’s a bit like a product breakdown structure. I’ve still got the different categories, so on my To Do List there were things to do with the home, work, health, travel, personal, miscellaneous, etcetera.

00:41:26 Bina Champaneria: And if we look at the one under travel, I’ve written there train and hotel, so I had some user stories where I had to book a train. So, I was travelling to London. I had to book a train and had to book a hotel.

00:41:37 Bina Champaneria: So, these are things that have to get done. So again, I looked at visualising my user story. So, this is also quite helpful again to see what you need to get done.

00:41:53 Bina Champaneria: The next question was, was each item important? All these things on my To Do List, are they all urgent?Are they all important? And for this I use MoSCoW prioritisation which also comes from AgilePM and MoSCoW stands for Must have, Should have, Could have and Won’t have for now.

00:42:12 Bina Champaneria: So, I would look at each user’s story and say OK, is this really a must done? Is it really important that I get this done?

00:42:18 Bina Champaneria: You know, is it a showstopper if I don’t get this done, is it going to mean that something’s going to be missing and I can’t? I can’t do what I’m supposed to do. In project terms, if something you don’t deliver is a Must have, it might mean that it’s illegal or unsafe or something like that. So, I would look very carefully at each of my stories and decide if it is a Must have.

00:42:39 Bina Champaneria: Maybe it’s a Should have is something that I do expect, but if I can’t get that done, maybe there’s a bit of a temporary work around for instance, temporary you know. Ideally, I should get it done, but maybe I have to do something temporarily to make sure the job can get done, but then I would have to come back and readdress it and then Could have this nice to have. Won’t have for now could mean that well, I don’t need to do this today, maybe I’ll do it tomorrow, maybe I’ll do it next week, maybe I’ll do it next month, or another project, for instance.

00:43:13 Bina Champaneria: So, what you see there on the right-hand side is my To Do List with the different categories with the different stories identified. Excuse me one second.

00:43:43 Bina Champaneria: Sorry, I got a bit of a cough, and I didn’t want to cough all over you, sorry. Back again.

00:43:50 Bina Champaneria: Yes, I was saying that I identified my stories as Must have, Should have, Could have and Won’t have for now.

00:43:57 Bina Champaneria: Not everything is a Must have, because if I said everything was a Must have, excuse me.

00:44:03 Bina Champaneria: I would be setting myself up for failure, you know, because not everything is that important. So that requires some discipline and understanding of what is important.

00:44:26 Bina Champaneria: That’s what happens when you talk a lot. You lose your voice. Anyway, sorry about that. OK. So, I prioritise my stories, making sure everything was not a Must have. So, I knew what I had to focus on.

00:44:39 Bina Champaneria: So, the next question would be – how long is it all going to take to complete?

00:44:54 Bina Champaneria: So, estimation now I would have to base this on experience, I think. Well, how long did it take me last time to do this? How long is it going to take me this time? Is it something I’ve done before?

00:45:10 Bina Champaneria: Is it more complicated and so I would learn from my mistakes actually. So, something that I thought was going to take an hour might take two hours. So, I think, OK, next time I’ll have to remember it takes longer. So, I’d estimate how long these stories would take. Obviously, I wouldn’t want to overburden myself, for example and you know and try and be as realistic as possible. So that was something I had to learn over time. How long things were going to take and that would certainly help me plan going forward.

00:45:48 Bina Champaneria: So, the last question is, when will I actually work on my TDL? And this is where the practise of time boxing comes in from agile.

00:45:57 Bina Champaneria: OK, so you’ve got think of a box that’s like an analogue analogy. You’ve got to fix something in that box. You don’t over cram it with things. What can you realistically fit in that time box, bearing in mind your capability and the estimates of how long it’s going to take.

00:46:15 Bina Champaneria: So effectively you create a time box into which you’re fitting the amount of work you are capable of completing as a team on a project or me on my own in this case.

00:46:24 Bina Champaneria: So of course, I had to be realistic and say, what can I realistically fit in? I don’t want to overburden myself, but I also want to make sure I get things done that I can get done.

00:46:43 Bina Champaneria: So, I’m going to show you an analogy of the time box, which I sometimes use when I’m training, and maybe you’ve seen it before, but I like to use the concept of a suitcase. So here is my analogy for a time box.

00:47:04 Bina Champaneria: So, imagine you’re going on holiday, and you’ve got a suitcase and that’s your suitcase. It’s not going to stretch. It’s going to be that size and you’ve got to fit in what you’re going to take on holiday in that suitcase. You don’t want to overload it because we know what will happen. They’ll end up charging you lots of money. If your suitcase is overweight, for instance.

00:47:26 Bina Champaneria: So, in my example, let’s say I was going on a scuba diving holiday, and I’ve got all my equipment there on the left-hand side. These are all my must haves. These are things that I want to take with me. If I was going on a diving holiday because these are things, I know fit me. I know how they work and so on. Those are my must haves that must fit into my suitcase.

00:47:46 Bina Champaneria: And then I’ve got other things like clothes, etcetera, in that suitcase. So that’s the analogy of a time box is you’ve got a certain amount of time or space. What can you fit in that? What’s important? What can you leave out? So maybe I won’t take the shampoo or the hat, because I think there’s no room for that. I can buy one when I’m there for instance.

00:48:07 Bina Champaneria: So, by the way the suitcase in the middle isn’t my suitcase. It’s just a picture. The picture on the right-hand side shows my actual suitcase, and you might think, why is a cat sat on your suitcase? Well, I don’t know. It wasn’t even my cat. It was a cat that used to come and visit, and I don’t know why, but pets seem to do this when they see a case, they want to sit in it so the cat goes coming on holiday, and I said no, you are a Won’t have this time, whatever. You’re not coming with me. Sorry. So that’s a Won’t have ever kind of thing. So that’s my analogy of a suitcase, so hopefully that helps you understand the analogy of the time box using the suitcase.

00:48:56 Bina Champaneria: So, in putting things in my time box, like my suitcase example, I’ve got a time box fixed period of time.

00:49:04 Bina Champaneria: I would look at what’s going to add value first, so if you’ve got a list of things to do and you think I’m going to do these things today, you might pick the most important things. What’s going to give you the most value you might pick out the must haves first and say that’s going to be important you know, for example, it’s important if I reply to that e-mail today or it’s important that I phone that customer today.

00:49:24 Bina Champaneria: You put in whatever is going to give you value first and that really helps to make sure you focus on what your priorities are.

00:49:32 Bina Champaneria: Just a little bit more about a time box without giving you too much theory. Hopefully it is as time box has got some kind of structure.

00:49:40 Bina Champaneria: So, at the start of my time box, let’s say a time box for a day, what do I need to get done? what stories I’m going to work on. Then I would work on my stories and check my work. Is it OK? Do that quality check, for instance, and then tie up loose and see what wasn’t done, what was done, what do I need to carry over, et cetera, and have a review, meaning really check your work as you’re going along. Is it OK?

00:50:05 Bina Champaneria: And during this process you’re checking your progress. You’re also learning lessons along the way and preparing for the next time box.

00:50:13 Bina Champaneria: So, there’s a bit of structure involved in working through your user stories.

00:50:22 Bina Champaneria: So that’s about planning now, managing the work. Again, I use something quite visual. Yeah. So, you see on the right-hand side. I created 3 columns. You can call these what you want but Ready, Doing and Done. So, I would decide what stories I was going to work on and Ready meant that I had everything I needed to know about it. They were ready to be worked on so effectively I’d take a still a story that was ready, start working on it and move it across to Doing and then when I’d finished, I’d probably put it in the column called Done, which was the great place to be because I knew that was finished. Tick against that made me happy. I know that I’d finished that. So, this is again a visual way of managing your work.

00:51:06 Bina Champaneria: Maybe if you use boards like this maybe some of you are familiar with something called Kanban board where you you’re also moving work along. There’s lots of different apps and things to help you, but again, it’s about visualising my progress.

00:51:23 Bina Champaneria: So, to summarise, really my daily time box was from 9:30 to 4:30 and I decided that was the time I was going to work on the on the tasks as well as do other things as well.

00:51:35 Bina Champaneria: But I needed to get my task done during that time, so when it was 4:30, my time box was finished. I didn’t extend the time. The time box is fixed, so effectively closed, closed off, shut shop gone home. That was it. That was the end of the work that I did.

00:51:51 Bina Champaneria: So, I felt like I was in control of my To Do List by applying these things. So just a quick recap, how did I take control? I looked at what was on my To Do List by looking at user stories being clear about the information.

00:52:10 Bina Champaneria: Decided what was important about each item by prioritising them.

00:52:16 Bina Champaneria: Estimating how long each one will take to complete and then creating a time box to decide when I will do the work.

00:52:26 Bina Champaneria: So, to summarise, really, how did that help me? Well from DSDM uh, which stands for Dynamic Systems Development Method. I know somebody asked that question in the chat there. I use the practises of user stories plus MoSCoW prioritisation plus time boxing because they worked together very well, and I felt more productive. I knew that I had to get something done. What? I had to get it done. I learned about my capability. What could I actually achieve in that time frame? I separated my work and non-work time, but I must admit it requires some discipline you know, I had to think, OK? I’m not going to do this now I’m going to do it tomorrow. I’m going to plan what I’m going to do tomorrow, sort of thing. So, it did require some discipline.

00:53:10 Bina Champaneria: But I felt like I could manage my workload and that was a great help actually. But I’m still learning. It still requires discipline, but it’s something that I’m going to keep practising and hopefully you’ll get a chance to try something like that.

00:53:28 Bina Champaneria: So, here’s a quick recap on what is uh DSDM AgilePM. Very, very briefly. You see a picture of the manual in the middle is available in four languages.

00:53:37 Bina Champaneria: It’s been around for a long time and maybe some of you are familiar with the word agile. Agile has been around for a long time. There’s also things like Agile Manifesto and things. I won’t go in too much into theory, but AgilePM involves what we see there. The temple on the right-hand side, things like philosophy, principles, etcetera.

00:54:01 Bina Champaneria: Now there are long principles, but purposely picked two things from Agile here which I think are really good to understand.

00:54:09 Bina Champaneria: One is called iterative development and the way I can explain that is that say you were making dinner for friends, and you made a curry or something like that. You would taste it while you’re cooking it, and you might think, well, I’m not sure if it’s spicy enough. I’m going to get another family member to taste it. So, you get somebody to taste it, they taste it, and they might think, well, actually, it’s not spicy enough. We need some more chilli so you can put more chilli in and then, they taste it again and they think, yeah, that’s great. Or they might say no, add a bit more salt.

00:54:44 Bina Champaneria: So, you go through this process of working on something, getting feedback until you get it right. So that’s an aspect of Agile project management and hopefully the analogy of cooking dinner and getting it tested helps you understand that.

00:55:00 Bina Champaneria: And then incremental delivery again, I’ll relate it to food. You know, if you’re cooking a 3-course meal for your guests, you’re not going to bring to the table everything in one go. You’re not going to say here. I here you are, here’s the start of the main and the dessert all in one go.

00:55:17 Bina Champaneria: Then you would deliver the starter first, so you deliver a chunk of it. Then you deliver the main course, then you deliver the dessert.

00:55:26 Bina Champaneria: So that’s incremental delivery. I just wanted to give you a bit of understanding of what that means from an agile perspective.

00:55:35 Bina Champaneria: So then to wrap things up, just to remind you of the two stories story, one about my Big Move project and how I use PRINCE2 to help me plan that and make it happen.

00:55:48 Bina Champaneria: And story 2 how I manage my ever growing To Do List instead of it controlling me, I took control of it by using what I know from AgilePM, User stories, MoSCoW and Time boxing.

00:56:01 Bina Champaneria: So, these things are used in companies and projects but in my mind, why not use them for everyday life? You know it help; it helps. It certainly helped me. And then my last self-keynote, not keynote key takeaway is that visualise things as I’ve as you’ve seen that I’ve done for me definitely works. If I visualise things then I know what I have to do. Give me a sense of knowing sense of awareness, something that I can control, and I’ll also monitor my progress.

00:56:38 Bina Champaneria: OK. So that’s the last information from me. Do connect with me on LinkedIn if you haven’t already done so nice to get to know you.

00:56:48 Bina Champaneria: So, I’m going to go on to the next slide and let Sevcan take over.

00:56:53 Sevcan Yasa: Thank you very much Bina. That was from my perspective it was quite interesting. So, thank you so much for that. And just to give everyone a bit of a background, these are the courses that we offer.

00:57:07 Sevcan Yasa: We offer them both in instructor-led courses. For example, one of our instructors are Bina – is Bina. We also offer self-paced courses as well which you can have access to-from 12 months. If you do want more information about any of these courses, you can either write to me on the chat, or you can always e-mail me. I would also put my e-mail down here as well, so just moving on to the Q&A.

00:57:40 Sevcan Yasa: Bina do want to have a look. So, a few questions.

00:57:44 Bina Champaneria: Yes, I’m just looking at some questions now that’s fine, actually. Let me just have a look. I think there was a question about firefighting. Let me just go down to that which I assume is relating to risk management.

00:57:58 Bina Champaneria: Yeah, Jelka, how would you manage the unexpected firefighting things that you haven’t accounted for? Yes, there was. I was focusing on planning, for example. But yeah, I think you’re talking about risk management, of course, risk management has to take place at any time. Things that we haven’t expected, things that we think might happen that could cause a problem. Could be a threat to whatever you’re doing. So yes, there was obviously risk management taking place, like what if the removal company didn’t arrive on time? For example, what would I do? What would I do with all my stuff?

00:58:32 Bina Champaneria: You know, there were always obviously a lot of risk, but I didn’t go into risk management there. So, risk management is definitely a part of project management, and I would use a PRINCE2 approach to managing risk, which is identifying the risk. Is it a threat? Is it opportunity? Assess it for the likelihood of it happening. The impact it would have when it might happen. What could I do about it? And so on. So yes, that was something that I did, but I didn’t include it in this particular presentation. So hopefully Jelka that answers your question.

00:59:06 Sevcan Yasa: And Bina, just before we head on to the next question, can we have the next slide please?

00:59:10 Bina Champaneria: Yeah, sure.

00:59:11 Sevcan Yasa: Yeah. Thank you.

00:59:23 Sevcan Yasa: I think we have a question from Sophie.

00:59:26 Bina Champaneria: Yeah. Is it in the chat? Let me just have a look.

00:59:27 Sevcan Yasa: Yeah.

00:59:35 Bina Champaneria: Oh, very interesting. Thank you for arranging. So, can we? Oh, no, sorry. That wasn’t the question. What was the question?

00:59:40 Sevcan Yasa: Can you recommend any software which makes dependency diagrams quickly and easily?

00:59:46 Bina Champaneria: Yes, I think I mentioned MIRO is a is a fantastic tool actually that’s spelled MIRO it’s a very good tool for visual things because it also gives you templates like for mind maps and anything like that. So, you can do a breakdown structure using MIRO.

01:00:07 Bina Champaneria: You get a lot of post-it notes, you can do the flow diagrams as well. It doesn’t do it automatically of course but it gives you the tools to create those. So, I recommend having a look at MIRO (M-I-R-O).

01:00:17 Sevcan Yasa: Yeah, I realised I just went a bit too up towards the chat. The question is actually what’s the best project management software to use for small to medium sized projects?

01:00:30 Bina Champaneria: Yeah, it depends on what you want to achieve using the software. Do you want to use the software to log your risks? Do you want to use software to create your plans? Do you want software to create your business case? It really depends on what you need the software to. I mean, I personally don’t know all the different software that’s there. I’ve not spent time investigating because I teach project management. I don’t look at the software, but I know a lot of people use things like They use JIRA if they doing Agile project management. So, I think you’ve got to first of all decide, if you’re working for a company does your company have a standard that they use? You know, do they have their own procedures? Do they already use some kind of software?

01:01:15 Bina Champaneria: If not, then think about what you need to do. You know what do you need the software for? Where is it going to help you? I think that those are questions you need to look at first and then look at some software because I think a lot of them offer, like free versions of it, play around with and see will it do what you want, for example, I mean traditional things like MS Project, Microsoft Project used to be used for creating Gantt charts and planning, but I think nowadays there are a lot of other tools available.

01:01:43 Bina Champaneria: I believe even Excel creates lets you create plans as well, so I think it depends. The answer is it depends on what you want to do really.

01:01:59 Bina Champaneria: Any other questions?

01:02:01 Sevcan Yasa: Thank you Bina, I’m just looking. I can’t see any more questions, but let’s just give everyone a few minutes just in case they have any questions.

01:02:19 Bina Champaneria: OK.

01:02:35 Sevcan Yasa: Hi Sandra. Did I miss your question?

01:02:49 Bina Champaneria: Ohh Sandra, you said your question was just above. Let’s have a look. I think that’s what you’re looking for as well.

01:02:55 Bina Champaneria: Isn’t it Sevcan?

01:02:56 Sevcan Yasa: Yeah.

01:02:58 Bina Champaneria: Are the slides available I think is that the question, yeah, yeah, there will be, there will be.

01:03:08 Bina Champaneria: A recording of the webinar will be available, yeah.

01:03:12 Sevcan Yasa: I will send them all of them next week, probably.

01:03:23 Bina Champaneria: I’m just looking at the chat to see if there’s any other questions.

01:03:56 Sevcan Yasa: Just while we wait for a few questions, if everyone can just answer these 5, I believe yeah 5, oh 6 quick questions would be great. Mainly to obviously help us improve for future webinars.

01:04:19 Sevcan Yasa: Cecilia, I couldn’t actually quite understand your question about the free training sessions. Do you mean the webinars that we’re doing at the moment?

01:04:44 Sevcan Yasa: Yeah. So generally, in terms of the webinar, we do try to have them once every, let’s say six weeks.

01:04:53 Sevcan Yasa: Obviously it can be, let’s say 5 weeks or obviously it can be 7 or 8 weeks. I am speaking with a new webinar speaker.

01:05:03 Sevcan Yasa: We do have some sort of idea of what the next webinar will be, but you will be receiving an e-mail in the next, let’s say in the next month or so.

01:05:14 Sevcan Yasa: But we do obviously try to have them as often as possible.

01:05:41 Bina Champaneria: Thank you for the. I just want to say thank you for the comments in the chat. Actually, it’s nice to see. Thank you.

01:06:20 Sevcan Yasa: Thank you, Sophie.

01:06:27 Bina Champaneria: Thank you.

01:06:41 Bina Champaneria: Thank you, Marijana.

01:06:50 Sevcan Yasa: It doesn’t seem that we have any more questions.

01:07:01 Bina Champaneria: Thank you, Tracy.

01:07:06 Bina Champaneria: Thank you, Shan.

01:07:08 Sevcan Yasa: Yep. Thank you.

01:07:19 Bina Champaneria: Thank you, Demirbas.

01:07:22 Bina Champaneria: Thank you, Jane.

01:07:55 Sevcan Yasa: I am going to slowly end the session.

01:07:58 Sevcan Yasa: So, if you do have any more questions, you can always e-mail Knowledge Train or agileKRC or even me. I did put my e-mail in the chat you do have Bina’s LinkedIn page. If you do want to get in contact with Bina, you can either add her on LinkedIn or you can e-mail me, and I can introduce you to Bina.

01:08:23 Bina Champaneria: Yeah. Thank you.

01:08:25 Sevcan Yasa: So, thank you so much everyone for attending. Thank you so much Bina for becoming a webinar speaker for us. We really appreciate it. I hope you and everybody else enjoyed the webinar, so thank you everyone and hope to see you in future webinars.

01:08:43 Bina Champaneria: Thank you for the opportunity. I really enjoyed it. Thank you very much.

01:08:46 Sevcan Yasa: I’m glad you enjoyed it.

01:08:47 Bina Champaneria: OK.

01:08:49 Sevcan Yasa: Yep. So, bye everyone.

01:08:53 Bina Champaneria: Bye.

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